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 Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki

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PostSubject: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:59 pm

Hello fellow Arashi members, my name is Dahir or MrLethalSky03 as you may all know. I got really pumped up to do a Suigetsu guide seeing as no-one has done one and it was all due to reading HAR MUH SEE’s guide on Asuma that got me interested really. This is my first guide so go easy on me *innocent puppy dog eyes*


Suigetsu isn’t an over/underpowered character, hes basically normal. About a 1/3 of my recent wins are due to him making him go from 3rd to 1st on my Character Usage Rate. I’d say everyone can get the hang of Suigetsu easily and it doesn’t take a long time to get the jist of his timings on combos/jutsus.

Right now I’m going to use the format HAR MUH SEE used which was created by Cinik & Skye =]

http://www.arashiboards.com/specific-game-discussion-f5/general-terminology-t30.htm#79

A guide to using Suigetsu

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A) Pros and Cons – Basic intro to Suigetsu
B) Attacks – Thoughts on Suigetsu's U1, U2, grab, and tilt
C) Awakening – Kijin no Sairai (Second Coming of the Demon)
D) Supports – Which supports are good enough to back up this water demon?


A) Pros & Cons

Pros:

- most of his combos are quite hard to KnJ out of
- u1 has a bit of a slow start up time but packs quite a punch
- decent kunai throw while in air
- his u2 is good for rasengan users as it just goes over them if they sub and use it
- grab is fairly quick as it just takes a punch to the gut to activate
- you can get straight into an air combo after one of ground combos


Cons:

- it takes him quite a while to throw his kunai while he is on the floor
- chakra kunai takes a while to come and is very slow when reaching target
- u1 doesn’t lock onto target properly like Kakuzu’s
- his combos are fairly slow as he has to carry Zabuza’s sword
- u1 has a bit of an ending lag which can be your downfall


B) Attacks


U1 - Suigetsu’s u1 is called Water Style: Water Dragon Jutsu. He uses a range of different hand seals to create a water dragon which come out of his mouth. The start-up of this jutsu is takes a bit of a while but does damage in the end. It is a long range jutsu but has very little accuracy. It has a bit of a laggy end once finished but it does cause a SB which is very handy in some occasions. Its not very good for punishing players who c.dash very often as it may go over the player due to its poor sense of direction.


U2 - His U2 is called the Torrent: Water Transformation Jutsu which I think is a very good U2 as it punishes those players that KnJ out of it and think they can rasengan it straight away, fools. On a positive note, Suigetsu’s U2 has a far more better sense of direction when it is being used. If the opponent is trying to move out of the way the U2 will still follow him and it eventually gains a little speed. When this jutsu connects it shows Suigetsu mowing over the enemy while in water form then turning into human form in the air while pulling out his sword before striking the enemy. The U2 can lead to you being punished if not used correctly.


Grab - Suigetsu has one of the quickest grab moves in this game. He gives you a quick punch to the stomach with his right hand, stamps his right leg on your nutsuck and slices you up. The damage that has been inflicted upon the opponent is very decent and using this technique makes you want to be a swordsman (or is it just me… xD). It is relatively quick as I have stated in the pros above.


Tilt - Suigetsu’s tilt is very effective when dashing to an opponent as it catches them off guard and causes a SB. His tilt is him swing his blade twice and 2 waves erupting from it. This technique can be KnJ’d out of easily but when used it worth it. There is a bit of a laggy end to it too.


C) Awakening


When Suigetsu awakens… it’s a whole different story. His right arm expands become more muscly, his power level explodes and he uses one arm to hold the sword. He breaks through guard with little trouble at all and with the right tactic, you can take out one of your opponent’s health bar. His grab move in awakening mode cuts through blockers and turtlers very easily and cant sub out of it easily.


D) Supports

Now this is tricky part. Any character is good enough to be suigetsu’s support. The ones I use most of the time are Kabuto (attack) & Sasuke CTS (balance). I recommend using one long ranged character and one medium/short ranged because Suigetsu doesn’t really need help when it comes down to close ranged right fighting.


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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:10 am

Hey, thanks for this. Yesterday I was thinking, "Hey, Suigetsu might be a pretty good character..." And now I look and you've got a guide. Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:17 am

Smile thank you very much, hope you do well with him!
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:30 am

Haha, Suigetsu's the best! I just beat an Itachi guy, and he even got me with his Team Special.
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:40 am

Lmao it actually makes me happy when people take my advice :P

I hope you beat a lot more people with him!
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:13 am

wat about my asuma guide???????? :P
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:18 am

I didnt read it lol, he linked me to his guide :P
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:25 am

O_O kk
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:57 pm

Hehe makes me want to play Suigetsu more often. :P
I herd u can tag -> U2 with him. Haven't tried it yet tho.
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:24 pm

Yeah you can, not many people know that HYES
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:37 pm

u can do the tag thing with anyone. (U3)
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:56 pm

He means U2 lol
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:01 am

well the u2 works with all charcters........distantce is a factor
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:08 am

It doesnt. if you try and use tag with sai it wont work cos his U2 has some long ass start-up
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:27 am

it will if u throw the tag lets say......at the end of........ most maps. It wont work in a real match cause no ones gonna get hit by a tag that far.....but it still works
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:29 am

yeah.. but when i found out you could do it, it did it by accident Cookie Monster xD
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:29 am

u mean it actually hit?
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:30 am

i mean with suigetsu, not sai lol
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:31 am

oh kk
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:13 am

Man, something awesome just happened. Seven seconds were left, I was fighting Minato, and my Hp was like, almost dead and he almost had full orange. I quickly grabbed him and he dashed away to start running and teleporting, but with my awesome newly found Suigetsu skills, I dashed in and used my U2 to beat him. :P

Yeah, you should include that Suigetsu can dash into U2.
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:18 am

but that would promote noobish tactics :P
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:25 am

Yea!
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:06 pm

It would also promote learning to block.
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:19 pm

But that would mean this guide would benefit any opponent not using Suigetsu... lmao
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PostSubject: Re: Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki   Second Coming of the Demon - Suigetsu Hozuki Clock14Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:35 pm

Suigetsu is pretty easy to Chakra dash -> U2 with.
Well u can always mention it in ur guide.
I wouldn't do it but if my opponent does or tries I'd do it too... It's good to know.
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