Ok i sorta read the last 2 pages of posts (didn't want to read all that drek) and i've come to a conclusion. In all respect when i say this but Prostriker, YOU ARE AN IDIOT! For starters you keeping driving things off topic and into useless drek that nobody cares about. And just because you beat a deidara spammer with minato makes you all badass and able to decide whats cheap or not? yea thats gonna happen (sarcasm). i'm sure all of us here have a beaten their fair share or spammers/turtles. and second of all your resorting to useless arguing about why no one will play your spammy cheap ass. get over overt it. it's obvious you fail at the game so you must use "cheap" or "frowned upon" tactics and then complain why nobody will play you? Here's a tip for you: Learn to play at par withought frowned upon moves and i'm not just talking what i don't like or what he doesn't like, i'm talking universally frowned upon tactics in this game. like bump u3 and massive spam and especially D/C'ing. Good Day Sir